1. Recap of Part One
2. Introduction of Two New Tools for Mindset Management
3. Live Coaching and Q&A
* Types of Stress: Stress that can be removed and stress that cannot be easily removed.
* Mindset Management: Essential for dealing with stress that cannot be removed.
* Tools Introduced:
* Celebration
* Expanders
* Thought Model
* Removable Stress: Examples include leaving a bad relationship or setting work boundaries.
* Persistent Stress: Examples include political climate and health issues like osteoporosis.
* Self-Care Practices: Not the focus of this session.
* Mindset Management: Key to reducing stress and fostering resilience.
1. Observation Mode and Curiosity: Becoming a non-judgmental observer of thoughts and feelings.
2. Implementation and Experimentation: Using observed data to make micro-adjustments.
1. Celebration: Recognizing and celebrating small wins to reinforce positive behavior.
2. Expanders: Finding role models who have achieved desired outcomes.
3. Thought Model: Understanding how thoughts drive feelings, actions, and results.
* Purpose: To identify and manage emotions more effectively.
* Application: Recognizing emotions on a scale from joy to despair and aiming to move up the scale incrementally.
* Purpose: To create a compelling reason for pursuing health goals.
* Application: Asking "why" multiple times to uncover deeper motivations.
* Edie encouraged participants to celebrate their participation and openness to exploring mindset.
* Breta announced upcoming events:
* Soft launch of Pema Bioidentical in August.
* First-ever in-person HSN retreat in February in Scottsdale, Arizona.
* Edie will be leading a group coaching program for those interested in diving deeper into mindset work.
* Breta will provide resources and updates in the Health Span Nation Slack channel.
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Edie Feffer: my goal today, just like it was last month, is to help you learn how to reduce stress by starting to manage your mindset and learning how to master your mindset is the thing that will help you reduce stress and heal your osteoporosis with so much more ease. Mindset is where I begin with every single patient
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Edie Feffer: in part one I shared with you that I want this health span nation to feel like 60 min of nourishing support for you, and that's the goal with every single one of our coaching sessions. Right? Because we're coaching in a group environment. I just wanted to share this slide with you, our trust touchstones, because talking about stress can sometimes be a sensitive topic. And so this is a way for us to
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Edie Feffer: hold ourselves to a set of standards that are explicit so that you can have the best experience possible today, especially if you choose to get coached, live. So we can create a safe space to share by respecting one another's privacy and honoring the fact that anything that's shared here stays within health span nation
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Edie Feffer: for our agenda today. We're gonna do a brief recap like Bretta mentioned of what we covered in part one of this series. I'm gonna teach on 2 new tools that you can start to experiment with to manage your mindset, and then we'll leave time at the end for live coaching and any final questions, and, like Bretta mentioned at the top of the call. I really encourage your participation. I want this
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Edie Feffer: to be an interactive experience. So please feel free to share any thoughts that you're noticing or questions that you have in the chat, and we can do our best to get to those. Either as we move through this discussion, or certainly at the end of our presentation.
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Edie Feffer: So as a recap in part one, we talked about these 5 topics. We talked about the 2 different types of stress. Why we want to start to manage our stress with mindset where, to begin with mindset.
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Edie Feffer: I gave you 3 thoughts to help you reframe your osteoporosis diagnosis or to help you frame your mindset as you heal your osteoporosis.
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Edie Feffer: And then we talked on about 3 tools to help you start to manage your mindset. We talked about celebration, the concept of expanders, and then the thought model. And I'll just briefly touch on each of these 5 topics now, so that we all have a really solid foundation as we dig into mindset and stress management. And so, in terms of how we manage stress.
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Edie Feffer: I like to break it down into 2 2 different categories.
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Edie Feffer: And the 1st type of stress is the stress that we can get rid of right. There are some instances where we can remove the source of stress and examples of this kind of stress could be. If you're in a bad or in a bad relationship, you can make the brave decision to leave.
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Edie Feffer: If you're feeling depleted with work, you can implement new boundaries with it right?
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Edie Feffer: But what do you do if you have a stress that you can't just quickly remove. And this is the kind of stress that we're focused on today. This is the stress that could be
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Edie Feffer: specific to the political climate. Another example is a health issue, right? A health issue that requires patience and time to heal like osteoporosis. And this particular type of stress can feel especially overwhelming and worrisome. And we're going to talk about ways to wrap our arms around it and manage it today.
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Edie Feffer: So within this second category of stress, the stress that you can't just quickly remove. There are 2 ways that we can start to deal with it at this level to help you bolster your resilience to stress in option one, we can implement self-care practices like the ones that I've listed here. These are all super valuable tools. But again, it's not our focus. Today, we're focused on option 2,
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Edie Feffer: which is managing your mindset to reduce your stress learning how to be onto your brain and aware of the thoughts that it's serving you. And this part of the work managing your mindset is actually step one to stress management
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Edie Feffer: being onto your brain, learning how to be aware of the thoughts that it's serving. You can create such a sense of peace, of control and trust when you're navigating a stressful situation like reversing your osteoporosis.
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Edie Feffer: So why do we start with mindset? We start with mindset, because I always say we want to get your brain on board with where you're going first.st Thought work is a big big part of health coaching. It's my favorite part of health coaching mindset right and slowing down to do this work
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Edie Feffer: is what will speed up your results.
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Edie Feffer: And I say this because anytime you get a scary diagnosis or difficult news, it's really easy and totally normal to feel overwhelmed about all of the pieces that need to come together to heal.
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Edie Feffer: And so again, when we're thinking about stress, mitigation and mindset
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Edie Feffer: doing the thought work is what will help you take inspired action, body loving action from a place of trust and confidence
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Edie Feffer: versus fear and doubt.
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Edie Feffer: And this. This is why it can be such a game changer in your healing journey. As you work to reverse your osteoporosis, you'll be met with so much more resistance.
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Edie Feffer: If you just jump into action without 1st getting curious about your mindset, about your thoughts and about your feelings right? And so to that end, how do we start to manage your mindset? And in our last session on this, in part one in June.
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Edie Feffer: I talked about the 2 different phases of a health journey, and this is where our work together begins in terms of mindset. There are 2 phases that I'll just quickly walk you through again right now, but know that we dive deeper into this in the session in June, and I encourage you to go back and listen to that phase. One is observation, mode and curiosity
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Edie Feffer: and phase 2 is implementation and experimentation. And there's always overlap between these 2 phases.
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Edie Feffer: And I'll walk you through
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Edie Feffer: ways that we're working phase one and phase 2 to help you heal right? And so in phase one, I'm wanting you to become what I describe as a gentle, non-judgmental observer, and you're just getting curious about your thoughts and your feelings. And when I'm doing this work in my own health journey.
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Edie Feffer: I am picturing myself as like this 3rd party who's just hovering above myself, and I'm wanting you to start to ask yourself 3 questions as you move throughout your day.
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Edie Feffer: what am I feeling?
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Edie Feffer: And do I like my choices right? What am I thinking? What am I feeling? And do I like my choices? And this is how you start to be onto your my onto your mind. We're starting to cultivate awareness
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Edie Feffer: as we're in observation mode
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Edie Feffer: in phase 2, we're moving into implementation and experimentation. And so the thoughts and feelings and the data that you observe and gather in phase. One is what will inform the micro adjustments that we take in phase 2 where we're starting to experiment with and implement new tools to help you reduce your stress
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Edie Feffer: and heal your osteoporosis. And so I walked you through some examples of the data that we can gather in phase one. And I've listed those for here for you here on this slide in this section.
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Edie Feffer: and so, in terms of framing your mindset. Last month I shared 3 thoughts that I encourage you to practice as you're working on reversing your osteoporosis, and I broke each one of these thoughts down in detail. And as we continue to talk about stress management, I just want to reinforce a couple of points on each of them right now. And so the 1st thought is that overwhelm is normal.
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Edie Feffer: and it's not a problem. None of your thoughts or your feelings or the stress that you may be experiencing are a problem. We get to wrap our arms around all of it today by starting to incorporate thought work right
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Edie Feffer: and as scary as a diagnosis of osteoporosis can be.
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Edie Feffer: This particular thought is my favorite reframe to coach on with patience, and it's 1 that I see come through in such beautiful ways as you start to be onto your mind. It's a portal for you to elevate other aspects of your health and well-being.
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Edie Feffer: And then the 3rd thought is just one of trust.
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Edie Feffer: believing that your body wants to heal.
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Edie Feffer: It wants to guide you back to optimal health, and we can bolster your belief and your faith and your trust in yourself and your body's ability to heal by protecting your mindset
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Edie Feffer: and giving yourself new tools to do just that which is what we get to dive into today, and so on. That note in June I introduced 3 tools to help you do this thought work, and the 1st one was celebration. We also talked about the concept of expanders. And we also did an interactive activity with the thought model.
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Edie Feffer: I'll do a brief recap on each of these 3 tools. And then today, we're going to talk about the emotional guidance scale and finding your why.
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Edie Feffer: as a recap. The 1st tool that we talked about last month was celebration. This is such a fun tool. It's a simple tool. It's 1 that you can start to implement today, and it will pay dividends. It is a tool that you can use to upgrade your identity and shift your self-concept faster
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Edie Feffer: and in terms of creating a new identity or shifting your self-concept. You are becoming the person who can heal her. Osteoporosis and consistent celebration is what will help you do that. It's what will help you create this new identity
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Edie Feffer: of becoming the person who reverses her osteoporosis right? And so to do this, all you need to do is be on the hunt for all of your wins.
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Edie Feffer: Are we? Okay? Brett.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Yep, you're good to go. Keep going.
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Edie Feffer: Okay, okay, cool.
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Edie Feffer: Yeah. So you're on the hunt for all of the ways that you're proud of yourself. Right? We're just looking for all of the evidence that you can show your brain that, hey? I am taking new action. I am
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Edie Feffer: working to heal my osteop osteoporosis. We're gathering up all of the evidence that this is already working. And so some examples of this could be. I'm proud of myself for experimenting with new foods. I'm proud of myself for increasing my protein consumption. I'm proud of myself for buying a weighted vest or for doing heel drops right
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Edie Feffer: in terms of the science behind this.
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Edie Feffer: This is neuroplasticity, right? It's your brain's ability to adapt, and we can shape it and mold it like plastic. And so as you're celebrating your wins. That's what you're doing. You're reinforcing who you're becoming. And you're creating new neural pathways in your brain to help you shift your self concept.
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Edie Feffer: The second strategy that we talked about is one of an expander and an expander is someone who has created or achieved something in their life that you desire to have or create. They're essentially holding up a mirror for you and showing you what's possible. And so for us, we're looking for expanders who will help you believe that you can improve your bone health.
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Edie Feffer: And this is another way that we're getting your brain on board with where you're going first.st Your belief
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Edie Feffer: comes first, st last month I walk, you walked you through the ways that you can find expanders and the different types of expanders that you can be on the hunt for. And so again, you can dive deeper into this particular tool by catching last month's replay.
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Edie Feffer: The 3rd tool that I taught was the thought model. This was my favorite part of our session. Last month. Again, we did an interactive activity with a volunteer who got coached live while I demonstrated one way that you can work this thought model, and I'm not sure if she's on right now. But Sharon participated, and I just wanted to take one moment to celebrate the work that she did.
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Edie Feffer: and Sharon did such a beautiful job of showing up fully for herself.
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Edie Feffer: the concept of being a gentle, non-judgmental observer, and just getting curious about the thoughts that her brain was serving her. And I want to mention, too, Sharon, if you're on the call now, or if you're catching the replay, thank you for showing up the way that you did, and for volunteering, because
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Edie Feffer: I got so much feedback from the patients that I coach in Doctor Doug's platinum experience saying that they found value in getting to witness you work through that model. And yeah, I just appreciate you sharing. So thank you.
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Edie Feffer: The the thought model. Just an overview of what that is
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Edie Feffer: is. It's a tool that you can use to get curious about your thoughts
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Edie Feffer: we start with a circumstance right? So the circumstance could be. I'm feeling stressed about my osteoporosis, and
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Edie Feffer: this model will help you see that your thoughts
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Edie Feffer: will create a result right? And what most people don't ish initially realize is that this our line, your result
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Edie Feffer: stems from your thoughts the T line.
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Edie Feffer: not your circumstance.
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Edie Feffer: Your circumstance doesn't have to change in order for you to create an entirely new result.
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Edie Feffer: But your thoughts and feelings are what we can upgrade.
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Edie Feffer: to create a new result and to help you reach that new result with much more ease.
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Edie Feffer: So I will just pause there, Breta, to check in with you, to see if there's any thoughts or questions or feedback before we dive into part 2.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: No, we have a quiet chat today, but you guys are more than welcome to ask your questions for Ed in the chat and share any experiences that you have. And then, I think, as we dive into these 2 new tools, if you want to work through those with Ed, you can either use the raise your hand feature on zoom, and that's by clicking reactions in the bottom bar, and then you'll be able to raise your hand there, or you can just let me know in the chat that you're interested in participating in live coaching. But I think we're good, and you can keep keep rocking through it.
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Edie Feffer: Okay, perfect. And just so, you know, Brett. I don't. I don't have my eyes on anything. I can't see the the group as I'm coaching, so I'll lean on you for any raised hands.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Yes, I'll do that. No worries.
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Edie Feffer: Okay, cool. So the new stuff I am excited to give you 2 new tools to experiment with from a mindset perspective. And we're kind of shifting directions here. So in part one, we learned how to get into observation mode. We learned how to be onto your thoughts, and we learned how to put those thoughts into the thought model.
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Edie Feffer: Today, we're going to focus on our emotions and learning how to leverage those to manage your mindset and reduce stress.
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Edie Feffer: So one I mean, we can pause here, or you can reflect
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Edie Feffer: One of my favorite books that I've read is called Rising strong as a spiritual practice by Brene Brown.
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Edie Feffer: and in this book, and a lot of her research she shares how most adults can only name 3 emotions, sad, happy, and angry.
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Edie Feffer: but that to be emotionally fluent. You need to be able to name at least 30 emotions.
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Edie Feffer: This idea of not being an emotionally fluent adult
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Edie Feffer: my health goals for decades right? And it's something that I can relate to when I look back on healing my hormones, on my food, freedom, journey on my weight loss journey. And it's something that I can
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Edie Feffer: it's a tool that we've used to help reduce stress when we're coaching on osteoporosis, and
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Edie Feffer: when I think back to my personal health journey, and how this particular topic of not being able to identify emotions more specifically than just, sad, happy, and angry. It makes total sense right, because most of us were never taught how to process our emotions, how to identify them, how to name them, how to feel them, and then what to do with them. Right? And so we'll talk about why emotions matter.
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Edie Feffer: and then I'll give you a tool to start to work with them. This slide illustrates why our emotions matter. We're going to talk about depleting emotions versus restorative emotions. And this is one way that you can start to get curious about them or start to be onto them.
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Edie Feffer: And emotions are another way that our body is communicating with us
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Edie Feffer: in part one. We talked about a few different ways that your body is sending you messages, and it's it's talking to you. It's sending you these messages because it wants to guide you back to optimal health.
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Edie Feffer: And so this is another way. As we're getting curious about our emotions where we're we're
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Edie Feffer: working with the body. I I described in part one
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Edie Feffer: how I picture a healing journey in terms of 2 different entities. We have our mind, our brain, our thoughts, and we have our body. We have our feelings, the symptoms that it's presenting right. And our job is to get both of those 2 things rowing together, working together in harmony. And so when we look at this slide
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Edie Feffer: we can see that we have emotions that can deplete us, and we have emotions that can renew us. Negative emotion is
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Edie Feffer: your indicator of resistance.
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Edie Feffer: while positive emotions are your indicator of allowance of trust, of ease of peace, of faith. And when we look at this graphic here, it illustrates that there are emotions that can help us feel more renewed like happiness and excitement.
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Edie Feffer: love and appreciation.
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Edie Feffer: and Dhga is a hormone primarily produced in the adrenal glands which are located above the kidneys and positive emotions and psychological well-being promote a more favorable
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Edie Feffer: we can see emotions that can contribute to us feeling depleted like anger and anxiety.
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Edie Feffer: These kind of emotions can lead to elevated levels of cortisol.
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Edie Feffer: That's another hormone produced by the adrenal glands, and it's often referred to as the stress hormone
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Edie Feffer: and prolonged exposure of high levels of cortisol can reduce our bone density.
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Edie Feffer: And so you can start to see how time spent here.
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Edie Feffer: slowing down and learning how to be on to your thoughts and onto your emotions
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Edie Feffer: And so I want to. This is another way for you to see all of the emotions, or some of the emotions rather, that can be depleting and those that can be restorative. I want to point out this one right here.
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Edie Feffer: The feeling of being indecisive. And this is one to be especially aware of
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Edie Feffer: when you're trying to make a big decision. Oftentimes the brain thinks it's working on something by thinking about it.
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Edie Feffer: is one that I'm thinking about from a coaching perspective. And so as we're thinking about it.
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Edie Feffer: and waiting mode is the worst possible energy that you could be in. It's sneaky because your brain thinks that it's working on a problem because it's spending time thinking about it. It's spending time analyzing it, dissecting it, worrying about what might happen. But really, we're just living in indecisive land.
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Edie Feffer: and that can create all of this anxious energy, and it yields no results.
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Edie Feffer: And this is a tool that I'm excited to share with you. It's called the Emotional Guidance scale, and I always wanna give credit to the people who have influenced the way I teach and coach. And so this particular tool comes from Abraham Hicks, and I'll walk you through how to use it now. And so when we look at this.
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Edie Feffer: and you receive new tools and information. You may move up the emotional guidance scale to worry. How am I going to do this? How am I going to pull all of the pieces of the puzzle together? So you're moving up? And you're actually making progress from an emotional standpoint. And then, as you stay the course and have support in whatever capacity that looks like for you, whether it's in our platinum experience, or with your own healthcare team.
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Edie Feffer: you may move to overwhelm. It's like, Okay, now I know all of the supplements that I'm going to be taking. How am I going to master this? And as you become the person who successfully implements your supplement protocol, you're eventually moving up the scale to better feeling emotions like hopefulness, and then optimism. And then what I call expectant energy, where you have the belief you've increased your self-trust, and you're doing it right? And so.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Yeah, feel free to drop any of those thoughts into the chat. So we have had a good little discussion in the chat, and I think the chats may be a little quieter, because a lot of this stuff is is probably newer to people, too, and we don't have as many questions, because we're taking things in for the 1st time. But one thing that's been coming up quite a bit in the chat after you mentioned it was the
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: the motion of indecision, and a lot of people are resonating with feeling indecisive. So maybe if we could spend a little bit more time on, how can we move out like, what tools do you have to either cope with indecision? Or how can we move out of that? Any thoughts about that.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Awesome. Donna raised her hand. Donna, I'm gonna have you unmute, and you're welcome to participate with Edie. I'm gonna go ahead and spotlight you, too, so.
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Donna: Oh, boy!
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Edie Feffer: Hi! Donna!
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Edie Feffer: There's lots of different ways that we could approach this lots of different paths forward. And so the win again is that you're onto the brain. And you've noticed, hey, I I may be in a bit of a spin cycle as I'm evaluating all the different ways that I could start to implement this part of my healing protocol and
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Edie Feffer: And so, since we're lowering the bar and starting smaller than you think you should. Perhaps that looks like, hey? I'm gonna carve out 15 min today to watch the 15 1 min exercises that are in day, one phase one, and that's a win
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Edie Feffer: And one thing you know, before we continue on, because I could jam on this for a long time. But you just taking action in this way is progress, and it will create so much momentum and comfort and safety in the body. But what you shared do shared just now from a thought work perspective is
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Edie Feffer: And that speaks to this idea of celebration that we talked about earlier of you creating this new identity, you becoming someone new, so that you become the woman who heals her osteoporosis. And when we approach your health journey with this mindset, and we're looking at your actions through this lens, it can become a spiritual practice, a spiritual journey.
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Edie Feffer: And so I'll pause there with finding your why, before we move into how we're pulling it all together. You can let me know how this is landing for you, or if you have questions, thoughts.
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Edie Feffer: and choosing to do that journal exercise. It. Could be you printing out the Hoffman feeling list that we shared in session, one to start, to become more fluent with your emotions, to increase your emotional library, and then it also could be you doing the journal exercise for finding your why, and sharing that with your coach, or sharing it with someone who's supporting you on your healthcare journey.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Edie. I've never had this quite of a group at Hsn.
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Edie Feffer: It rocks like I just love it. We had our 1st session last week, and this is a group that is sharing in such a meaningful way. It's an opportunity for you to connect with and learn from other patients who are working on healing their osteoporosis, and it's not too late to join. We have our second call tomorrow.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Awesome. And I think we're getting a lot of great feedback in the chat. And if you guys wanna join Ed's coaching I think the session. Yeah, like, she said. The second session is tomorrow. Just go ahead and reach out to Samantha, or whoever manages your patient care, and they can get you squared away with joining Ed's program. If you're a full service patient. And then, you know, just like we were talking about a lot of people have found this very helpful, and they're taking it in and conceptualizing it, and kind of trying to figure out where to go next.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: on Hsn, like on the website as well for us to house some of these things. So you guys can easily find them and come back to them. Edie, did you have any other things to share before you go? Thank you so much for your time. I think everybody is in the chat saying how valuable that this this presentation was. So thank you so much.
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Edie Feffer: Oh, good! I'm so happy to hear it. Yeah, I don't have anything else to share other than that. I think mindset is oftentimes the most overlooked or neglected part of a health journey, and so, in terms of celebration, I encourage you to find a way to celebrate yourself for showing up today and being open to explore this particular topic, do something kind for yourself. And
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kathy : Hello!
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kathy : Hi! Me again
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Edie Feffer: I have a couple of thoughts on this. When you see me looking to the side, you have my full attention. I'm just keeping my brain on track with topics that we could coach on specific to this. And so it sounds like, am I understanding correctly like you've taken the supplements you noticed symptoms that were presenting, and then you reached out to your coach or your dietician to inform them of the change right.
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Edie Feffer: implementation and experimentation to make micro adjustments, to help you feel better as we dial in a protocol that's gonna work West, best for you and your unique body. And so, as you're sensing the fear one way that we can start to comfort the brain is to actually show yourself the facts of how you are working with the body
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: Awesome, great. And that's definitely by the chat, something that resonates with a lot of people and not being able to take all of their supplements and just being scared to have flow work done. So I think there's a ton of opportunity to continue to connect on this in Hsn. In the mindset channel. So take all of those thoughts over there, and we're a little bit over time today. So we're gonna go ahead and wrap up. But I do have a couple of exciting announcements.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: You'll be getting all the info on this. I just wanna let you guys know what's coming. So if you were interested in the hormone therapy. Only company that Dr. Doug is starting. If you're not already on the wait list for Pemma Bioidentical, go ahead and do that because we're gonna be doing a soft launch
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: on starting in August. So the 1st of August will be taking some people in. And, you know, getting started on those processes so we can fine tune some things and making sure that it's a wonderful patient experience for you. And then we are also getting ready to launch our first, st ever in person. Hsn retreat, which is, gonna be in February, in Scottsdale, Arizona. So it's gonna be super fun. Dr. Doug is
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: is gonna be there live to share all of his wisdom and knowledge with you. I know Edie's gonna be there. I'm gonna be there. And then some other people from our oh, team will also be there to share some info to give some great presentation host workshops, and then we also have outside experts coming in as well. So you'll be getting a little bit of a there's a
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: client discount, and then an Hsn discount. So keep an eye out for emails on all of that, and we hope to see you guys there live. But you'll get all the full details.
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Breta, MS, RDN OHH TEAM: pricing hotels. We're just waiting on our venue to send us the link for hotel rooms, and then we'll be good to go to launch that. So I really hope to see you all there, and that's all I have for today. I know I'm behind on some slack messages, and I I intend to get to those I've just. We've been creating some stuff for you guys, and that's taken a little bit more of my attention. But thank you so much for being here, and I'll see you guys in slack.